Well, I've been set straight on some facts and this edit reflects it.
Sorry for any bad information.Okay ... now I have a great scanner and so, of course, I'm thinking about a comparable printer.
I've been looking at the Epsons for their pigment based inks which offer superior durability.
A well established issue with Cyan, Magenta and Yellow: combine two and you arrive at a decent Red, Green or Blue ... but mixing more results in progressively muddy colors. Thus black is needed to assure decent dark areas of a print.
On the other side of the scale, towards highlights, printer manufacturers have sought to get cleaner blends by using less intense colors like "light cyan" or "light magenta". Also, additional neutrals lighter than black allows for better neutrals and near grays.
Anyone familiar with a photoprinter will be familiar with this list of 'colors', though the idea of a "light black" may be a bit confusing to some (it's just gray by another name).
So what happens when you mix yellow and light cyan? Well, it seems that you get a greenish yellow hue. Likewise, you can get orange hues by mixing yellow and light magenta. In fact, this system is great for producing secondary: red, blue, green as well as greenish yellow, orange, purple, and bluish cyan. Without a "light yellow" option included it might seem as if yellowish cyan or ruddy magenta might be off the table; however, anyone familiar with the Lab color space knows that yellows are bright by nature and you apparently don't need a "light yellow" at all. Thus certain Epsons up to and including the R2200/4000 Pro etceteras.
Another option is to add more primary colors so you don't have to, for example, mix magenta and yellow any more to get Red ... because red is already there in its own right. Also, having red around means it's easier to get clean oranges or ruddy pinks. Likewise, you can get the same sort of benefit by adding in Green and Blue rather than the light inks (save grays, because muddy is still muddy).
Canon's better inkjets include greens.
Now, the human eye is not a neutral instrument. We see more and better greens than either red or blue. Likewise we see more hues of red than blue. So if we have a Blue ink (as was the case with the R1800 and R800) our printer may have a comparably large color gamut (compared to a CMYK printer) but some of it will be lost on human eyes. With the R1800 the addition of Red and Blue seems to have been motivated by the desire to produce a strong spectrum of bright cool to warm colors seen in landscape photography flowers and birds and all that.
The grass and the trees were left where they were.
But these are green: what we see the best.
So along comes the R1900 with Red and Orange inks in addition to CMYK. Some of the vivid cool tones (like bluish magenta) have been replaced by better greens (mix cyan with orange and you get yellowish green). Not sure why they didn't use Red and Green inks for the R1900. It may be that a greater blend of ruddy magentas is available with orange and the range of greens was deemed sufficient.
Of course, a true 7 color printer CMYKRGB, would be sweet. Especially if your toss in a gray or two.
Did I mention an 8 or 9 color printer would be much more expensive?
It's the old difference between a great design and a great product. A great design is a no-compromises triumph (any supercar or modified Roland 2x6 printer as a 12 ink uber-printer) while a great product gets the buyer what they want without taking their last penny (Mustang or an R800 printer).
Now for some speculation for the R2880 owners out there: your "vivid magenta" ... just what exactly IS it?
Actually, it's just ordinary magenta. I had originally speculated that it might be a reddish magenta but I've been set right by Jon Cone whose company make dye free pigment inks for printers (ColorCone Inks).
The R2400: when Epson made the R2400 they installed "cyan" and "magenta" in it that were not true cyan and magenta. The cyan was blueish and the magenta was reddish. This expanded the color gamut the range of printable colors at the expense of neutral hues. Good grays were to be assured instead by the use of three monochrome inks.
It turns out that the expanded color gamut of the R2400 didn't please professional people printing proofs, folks who could make a huge stink and cause problems for Epson.
Apparently, at least according to Mr.Cone, the suspicion is that
marketing people believe a big color gamut equals big sales ... but one can make too many compromises chasing after a great product as opposed to a great design. At least with folks who are reasonably picky because their jobs depend on it.
What the R2880 does, an addition to other advances to regulate ink use and prevent clogs, is return magenta to what it was before the R2400. Since they don't hawk "Vivid Cyan" I guess the cyan used remains color shifted. This is unlikely to be an issue because humans simply don't see blues a strongly. Also, I would guess that retaining the "cyan" allows for better reproduction of blue-greens.
As with the R2400, the R2880 retains three neutral tones. With true cyan it can generate better neutral tones than the R2400 can.
So here's my
revised thoughts: UltraChrome K3 with Vivid Magenta could be used in an older printer like the Pro 4000 and a custom ICC profile might suffice (because I wouldn't be trading out dissimilar colors). What would this accomplish?
Don't really know.
The Pro 4000 used the same ink set as the older Epson UltraChrome printers like the R2200. Did Epson "shift" cyan and magenta with these printers to get a wider color gamut ... only not quite as much as they did with the R2400?
Why am I thinking about these things? Because I want an Epson Pro 4000. Though I'm less sure than yesterday.
Yes: it's old. But it was also good and build like a tank.
As for my previous speculations about using different ink colors I've learned this: there's an expensive program called ColorGPS that lets you exactly do this. But there's no getting around the "expensive" part for me. Especially when used with old equipment like a 4000.
As I said befor, all I need is ... more money than I've got!
